Line 397

walter_rwalter_r Stillwater, OK
Hello,

I was toying with the idea of showcasing my layout here for quite some time and I finally was able to take some footage of it. The name of the layout is "Line 397" which is a fictional local train line located in western Poland. I come originally from that region (I grew up nearby the line 357). 

The layout is about 60ft long with two end stations hidden from the spectators ( each about 10 ft long). I run all sorts of trains on it - from modern passenger trains in the PKP ICCC livery (like the Berlin-Warszawa Express) to old steam locos (like the Oi1-29 or Ty4-107). In the video you can also spot two gems - the Ol49-64 custom built by a constructor in Poland and the Ty2-406 (its prototype was stationed in Wolsztyn and it actually ran on the line 357!) which is a conversion from a Roco BR52 done by a specialist in Poland. 

Please enjoy! Any comments most welcome! 

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Comments

  • Great layout and video!  Thank you for sharing it!
  • Hello Walter:

    Welcome to the forum.  Nice layout, and an interesting subject to model.  I think Roco and Piko may have had several diesel engines in PKP colors.  After all, in contrast to the West, where each country built its own type of diesel engines, in the East, different types were built by specific countries for use by all. 

    Ulrich
  • el Gato Gordoel Gato Gordo Colorado Spring

    Welcome to the group, Walter!  I enjoyed the video and liked the way the camera was still as the trains came past, focusing on each car in turn.  Well done on both the video and the layout!  Very nice!

    Gordon

  • Hi Walter

    Welcome to our Forum. It is nice to have you.

    I concur with everything Ulrich and Gordon had to say.

    I like the music. What is it?

    Roger
  • Very nicely done. Rare rolling stock, extremely natural and realistic landscaping, no overcrowding... what more can one want?

    Misha

  • Hello Walter,

    welcome :)

    Awesome layout, very nice detailing. My Grandfather came originally from Schlochau ( Germany at that time, before WWII ). That is Western Poland now, but I do not know where the line 397 is.

    Thanks for sharing the video !

    Br

    Leif
  • walter_rwalter_r Stillwater, OK
    Thanks everyone for your kind words! I really appreciate that. 

    @Ulrich - indeed some of the rolling stock is made by Roco (like the Ty4-107 with the freight train in Era III or the ST44-717 diesel engine of the PKP Cargo with the freight train in Era VI) and Piko (the green diesel SP42-071 loco with two white/green passenger cars). The "bad" thing is that if one wants the really typical Polish rolling stock like the Ol49 steam loco (the one with the two olive passenger cars), one has to really hunt for it and it has to be custom made. I was really lucky to be able to get my hands on it. Another way to obtain such rolling stock is to essentially do in H0 scale what has been done in the past in reality, namely make the same modifications to a former German locomotive (like the Kriegslok BR52) that have been made to it in reality. Take a BR52, make suitable changes and you got a Ty2 or Ty42. Take a BR93, make suitable changes and you got a TKt2. But you will never have an Ol49 or a TKt48 or diesels like the SP45 or SU46... Luckily, in the past few years, there has been increased interest in the Polish model trains market from the side of manufacturers. Some of the rolling stock you can get by small manufacturers like Robo or EFC. 

    @Roger - the soundtrack is by Dexter Britain with the title "The time to run (finale)". It is royalty free and can be used freely for amateur youtube videos etc. I like it a lot and was sure that I want to use it even before I took any footage of the trains. 

    @Leif - Schlochau is/was way far up north. Lines around it would be numbered in the 400's. The number 397 marks a totally fictional line as the numbering in the 300's stops at 396. So there was never a line 397, 398, or 399. The region with the 300's lines is around Zielona Góra (Grünberg), PoznaÅ„ (Posen), or Å»agaÅ„ (Sagan), and up to Gorzów Wlkp. (Landsberg). 


    -Walter

  • Walther:

    Here is a definitely not complete list of steamers that can be converted into PKP models:

    03.10
    13 (S6)
    17.2 (S10.2)
    17.10 (S10.1)
    24
    38.10 (P8)
    42
    50
    52
    55 (G8.1)
    57 (G10)
    64
    78 (T18)
    86
    89 (T3)
    93 (T14)
    94 (T16)

    Ulrich
  • Hello Walter,

    thanks for the additional info, I made a typo, I meant the 357 you are modelling :) Anyway, your layout is more south then the area. I just checked, the 210 is running thru Schlochau ( Człuchów ) nowadays.

    Edit: So your layout is somewhere between Poznań and Wolsztyn ?

    Br

    Leif


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  • walter_rwalter_r Stillwater, OK
    Thanks Ulrich! 

    basically it goes like that:

    03.0 is the Pm2 (I got the Pm2-32 made by MicroFeinmechanik)
    03.10 is the Pm3 (no mass production in H0)
    13 (S6) would be the Pd5 (there is a model by Fleischmann but I do not own it)
    17.2, 17.10 is the Pk1, Pk2, or Pk3 (no mass production)
    24 is the Oi2 (there is a model by Roco Oi2-32, it's featured in my video)
    38.10 is the Ok1 - there was a model by Fleischmann but it was basically a P8 with white wheel rims. This is not enough and it still needs a lot of work to resemble a Ok1. (btw the Ok1-379 was stationed in Wolsztyn).
    42 is the Ty3/Ty43 - no mass production in H0
    50 is the Ty5 - Roco has a very nice model of the Ty5-31. The Ty5-10 is in Wolsztyn.
    52 is the Ty2/Ty42. One of the iconic steam locos of the PKP. Roco is supposed to release a model this upcoming Fall. However it will still need a lot of work. 
    55 is the Tp1 - there is a model by PIKO but it's more of a toy...
    57 is the Tw1 - there is a model by Roco. I have one but it is still awaiting a DCC decoder
    64 is the Okl2 - there was a model by Roco and is still sometimes available on one of the Polish auctioning websites.
    78 - Oko1 - no mass model
    86 - TKt3 - there is a model by Fleischmann. I have one but it still needs DCC
    89 Tkh100 - no mass production
    93 - this is the TKt2 - Roco just released a model. It is on order with Reynaulds for me.
    94 - this one I am not familiar with. 

    There is still the BR44 - the Ty4 missing on the list as well as the BR74-Oki2 (Roco had a model, own it, needs DCC). There is also the BR19 which was the Pt1 and the BR41 which was the Ot1. 

    What I was referring too in my priori post is rolling stock designed and built by Polish industry (like the Ol49, or SM41, SP45, Pt47 etc.)

    PIKO has just released  a model of the EU07 (as did a new company called Schlesienmodelle).

    -Walter

  • Walther:

    You wrote:

    "57 is the Tw1 - there is a model by Roco. I have one but it is still awaiting a DCC decoder"

    This is a tricky installation.  However, a small Digitrax Decoder DZ146 or TCS  Z2 will fit under the coal pile in the tender after removing a little amount of metal at the bottom.  Both have another power to run an HO engine.

    Ulrich
  • walter_rwalter_r Stillwater, OK
    @Ulrich - thanks for the info. It will come useful when I finally get to it.

    @Leif - indeed, nowadays it's the line 210. There used to be also the line 413 but it's gone now. 

    As far as my layout is concerned - the number 397 is completely fictional. The numbering in the 300's stops at 396. There is no and has never been an actual line 397. The one i grew up at was 357 and it runs (or used to) from Poznan (Posen) to Sulechow (Zuellichau). 
  • Hey Walter,

    the 94 is the Prussian T16.1 and PKP TKw1(before 1939) TKw 2 (after 1945)

    ESU is coming out with an awesome T16.1, not in the PKP version for now, but maybe in future.

    Br

    Leif


  • Walter, very nicely done, enjoyed the video, thanks for sharing.

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